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  Hello

  by lurkernomore in

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  i thought it was high time to introduce myself (without my name of course).

  as my name would suggest i have been reading your intriguing post, thoughts and discussions for some time now.

  around 3/4 months to be exact.. i guess to start with it would seem fitting to give a little background on my current situation.. i'm a born-in, but have over the last few years found that through a number of varying occurences, (some of which i may discuss in future posts) that my 'zeal' has gone from regular field service and meetings to no service in over a year and very sporadic meeting attendance.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!
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  My mother listed me as a Jehovah's Witness at the Hospital for a pending emergency surgery

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  2. friends

  i've been having some medical issues recently and had to check into the emgerceny hospital.

  when they admitted me the registar asked my mother my religion.

  she told them jehovah's witness.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Clearly your mother underestimated how annoying and idiotic her religion and the elders are!

  Did those elders at least change out of their janitor uniforms before they came to your room?

  
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  Went with wife our on campaign, what a joke! Keep thinking, would Jesus had done this?

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  what a joke the campaign is.....the sheeple are so blind.

  what does this have to do with what jesus taught us to do.

  i feel like i was campaigning for a politician.. next thing your going to see on the website is a donation button visible to all vistors without having to log in just bypass the middle man.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Nothing like elderly people coming to your door to promote technology they neither use nor understand.
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  Perfect Relationship, He Still Broke Up With Me

  by tiff21390 in

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  2. relationships

  last month, my best friend of four years and boyfriend of six months came home from a jehovah's witness convention.

  he'd been acting strangely the entire weekend and i knew something was wrong.

  i initiated a discussion and he said, "essentially our relationship is wrong and i'm not supposed to be with you.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "I just would like some advice and encouragement on how to deal."

  You've given him plenty of chances. Frankly, he isn't much of a man. Although he's seemed to show you his deeper, truthful side, what he's given you is just another facade. He talks to you about your future plans for togetherness and family, but then he goes to the KH where the JWs plan for a future where all nonJWs (yourself included) will have their heads smashed open as Jehovah drops rocks from the sky.

  My advice? Your time and energy would be much better invested elsewhere. My encouragement? This has been a valuable learning experience for you. You can be glad that you didn't spend more time and energy on him.

  "He was my best friend in every sense and was always there for me. I still love him so much. I've decided to end all contact with him as it hurts too much to now realize that he's ok with having sex and carrying on with me without committing to me. I'm hurt because he's not the man I've known. He's a stranger now."

  You both have changed. You now realize that a best friend shouldn't be treating you like a "dirty little secret", keeping you away from his friends and family. He has changed too because he can't keep up the work required of his double-life.
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  Poignant Statistics Summary for Comment at This Sunday WT Study! (Aug. 3, 2014)

  by SAHS in

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  the watchtower study to be considered this sunday, august 3, 2014 (using the magazine dated may 15, 2014), titled are you moving ahead with jehovahs organization?, in paragraph seven (on pages 27-28), talks about the number of people baptized in recent years:.

  7 where do those making up the great crowd come from?

  they are being brought together because of what jesus foretold as part of the sign of his presence.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

  Now that you're waking up from the WT-induced stupor, you are able to connect the dots. As for the other sheeple, their minds are awash in unreasonable words from the cult and their time too wasted by unproductive recruiting to stop and take a real look at the things that you are seeing.
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  hello everyone

  by purrpurr in

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  2. friends

  i've been browsing the site for some time as things that the society teach just are not adding up much these days.

  by exploring some of the threads on here i'm starting to see why.

  a brief bio.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!

  "Question. Can the society put spyware on my computer when I go to jw.org? I'm frightened they will find out I'm on this site??"

  You have WT technology confused with our old fears of demunz and smurfs. If jw.org was really able to spy on the other sites that JWs were visiting, there would already be a massive wave of JWs dfd for frequenting porn sites.
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  I realized I've been *hit on alot

  by skeeter1 in

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  2. family

  about a month ago, i realized that i didn't really care about my still-in jw family.

  i just want to be left alone by them.

  they caused me so much grief.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Ugh! Those are some toxic relatives that you need to disfellowship from your life.
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  PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

  but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

  yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I like Joe's idea to be short on your time. Explosive diarrhea is a good reason to not go out.
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  The GB gives awakened JW's 2 choices.

  by BU2B in

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  this is classic damned if you do, damned if you dont.. the choice is.

  1. be a hypocrite.

  i just came to the realization that those of us still in and who know ttatt have only 2choices.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Oub: 'The truth is, the GB are the apostates as they keep changing the doctrines of this "religion."'

  Indeed, rather than apostates, those who leave are "liberated."

  So, the two choices are:

  1: Trapped - stay

  2: Liberated - go
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  A biochemist explains his faith

  by OneEyedJoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after venting's recent thread on the article on jw.org about the expirimental physicist who became a jw, i figured i'd post up my analysis/rebuttal of another similar article.

  when i was going through the process of cleaning out the last bits of doubt from myself, i read a few of these and wrote down my thoughts just because it felt good to actually express it all somehow.

  maybe some here (maybe even a lurker or two going through early doubts) will find some value in it.. link to origonal article: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201310/davey-loos-science-researcher-explains-faith .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "Our faith is not blind faith that ignores the facts of science."

  Based on the reasoning that something complex needs an intelligent designer, where did that designer come from? Nowhere? Nothing? A fish needs a designer, but god doesn't? It's the equivalent of someone reasoning that a watch requires a designer, but a watch factory with a trained and experienced staff did not require design, training, or experience. It becomes infinite regression. And they're breaking their own rule requiring intelligent design when they dismissingly say, "Oh, gawd is different because he's always existed, like time and space." Really? This super-intelligent, all-powerful creator just "always existed"? So really, complexity can indeed come from absolutely nothing based on their explanation.

  By contrast, evolution becomes much less complex and evidence of evolution can be easily found. I need to look up the exact statistic... As a dude, I have 99.5% the same DNA as a male chimp. However, I have only 97.5% the same DNA as a woman. Explains why men act like apes sometimes, eh ladies?